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Leaf Spring Comparison: All-Pro, Allcan, Icon, Dobinsons, Deavers, Archive, Dakars
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Yeah you'll need to turn that bolt around, common issue with several mfrs springs actually because Toyota put gas tank surprisingly close to spring
Maybe if you droop the axle out, you will be able to get the bolt turned around without removing the spring
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I’ll turn it around. It just sucks that the gouge is questionably deep looking in person. And you’d think that bolt would have been shorter or turned around from the manufacturer.
@Mr. Nobody I’d check yours.
Yeah this is an issue on GM full size trucks too. I always made it a point to flip the bolt around so I wouldn’t have to drop the gas tank just to have enough clearance to pull the bolt out in the future.
Freaking engineers man. They build cars as if we’re not going to mod ‘em. Or have to repair or service them one day.
I agree, all the bolt threads should point towards the driver side, since passenger side clips have nothing to interfere with.
Hey Tyler,
As this is very rare, it can still happen in some cases. Please lift the driver side of the vehicle and flip the bolt to prevent further damage. This will fix the issue.
Do you have any suggestions for what people should do if they are concerned about their damaged gas tank, for those who may find this thread in the future?
Yeah, and @Mr. Nobody has it too. I’m going to have to post a public service announcement to be honest.
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Dude for reals. That’s a huge safety issue.
When I posted this on the Instagram story I had about 4 other people so far that found out they have the same issue.
That’s crazy. Anything gas tank related reminds me of the pinto
hopefully it’s an easy fix and they take care of any product going forward.
Some people have told me (on IG) that there are Icons doing it too.
Are these companies outsourcing the springs and an unknown party is making the mistake, maybe? @DobinsonsUSA
Not bashing Dobinsons, I like the general design a lot, but I feel these issues are what occurs when a company makes parts for a vehicle in a different market than the HQ are based in.
I brought up an issue with Dob 112s how the 2nd leaf extends inside shackles, and to their credit, they started process of updating the 112 version
TRDcement_taco19
5️⃣ Platinum
Ok here we can talk I’ll show what I got on my rear suspension, and why I like it.
My rear setup @ARCHIVE hammer hangers and cross bar support, timbren active offroad bump stops, bilstien 5160 rear shocks, and emu el095R medium duty rear leaf with extra leaf 46xl = heavy duty total 7leaf pack.
now started with a basic lift 1.5” rear block threw those out in a month. I guess I started with that for that extra inch or rear lift, as I was adding small amount of weight in the back of bed. Month later added the wheelers offroad progressive AAL, did the job. Held weight well. Same time did the Timbren bumpstops with u bolt flip kit. Good flex
but not enough flex and addEd more weight to the rear with a full size 34” spare into the bed. Months later removed the AAL installed the emu leaf pack medium duty EL095R. Awesome flex but was only rated 300lb load I needed more, so a week later bought extra single leaf the 46xl $80 on amazon for a pair. I already had the hammer hangers for months sitting in the garage. So the same week got all my components installed by local fab shop. Got 2” rear lift. So to level it out I install 650lb coils in the front with 6112. Front suspension Is stiffer now, but use to it by now. Rear suspension is a whole different story night and day difference! So much rear flex then the front. More droop. Floats over speed bumps. No more jittery feeling over bumps or rough roads. It’s a big huge game changer and I blame it on the hammer hangers!
My rear setup @ARCHIVE hammer hangers and cross bar support, timbren active offroad bump stops, bilstien 5160 rear shocks, and emu el095R medium duty rear leaf with extra leaf 46xl = heavy duty total 7leaf pack.
now started with a basic lift 1.5” rear block threw those out in a month. I guess I started with that for that extra inch or rear lift, as I was adding small amount of weight in the back of bed. Month later added the wheelers offroad progressive AAL, did the job. Held weight well. Same time did the Timbren bumpstops with u bolt flip kit. Good flex
but not enough flex and addEd more weight to the rear with a full size 34” spare into the bed. Months later removed the AAL installed the emu leaf pack medium duty EL095R. Awesome flex but was only rated 300lb load I needed more, so a week later bought extra single leaf the 46xl $80 on amazon for a pair. I already had the hammer hangers for months sitting in the garage. So the same week got all my components installed by local fab shop. Got 2” rear lift. So to level it out I install 650lb coils in the front with 6112. Front suspension Is stiffer now, but use to it by now. Rear suspension is a whole different story night and day difference! So much rear flex then the front. More droop. Floats over speed bumps. No more jittery feeling over bumps or rough roads. It’s a big huge game changer and I blame it on the hammer hangers!
TRDcement_taco19
5️⃣ Platinum
Ok here we can talk I’ll show what I got on my rear suspension, and why I like it.
My rear setup @ARCHIVE hammer hangers and cross bar support, timbren active offroad bump stops, bilstien 5160 rear shocks, and emu el095R medium duty rear leaf with extra leaf 46xl = heavy duty total 7leaf pack.
now started with a basic lift 1.5” rear block threw those out in a month. I guess I started with that for that extra inch or rear lift, as I was adding small amount of weight in the back of bed. Month later added the wheelers offroad progressive AAL, did the job. Held weight well. Same time did the Timbren bumpstops with u bolt flip kit. Good flex
Thanks for the vote and recommendation!
Because Hammer hangers outperform it in ride quality, bump travel, vehicle handling and load handling, and Hh virtually eliminate rear sway.
Get your lift from leaf springs or if you only need 1" lift a block isn't that bad
Can anyone make a recommendation on a lubricant to help with squeaky leaf springs?
EDIT: I have Deavers.
EDIT: I have Deavers.
If its the bushings, use energy suspension bushing grease on the bushings, other than that, pretty much look for metal to metal scrapping, such as the clips.
I like to spray something on the springs to keep them from rusting
This is great Tyler. Appreciate you taking the time to make this in depth write up. As a newbie I'm starting to think I can build a suspension using the best from different manufactures rather than just buying an all-in-one complete suspension kit like an ICON Stage 9 kit for instance. Am I correct in thinking I can do this? Are there any advantages or disadvantages? What components should I be considering for a 3" suspension lift if I were spring no cost?
Any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks. I try to keep useful info like this available although this particular thread has been neglected.
You are correct in thinking you can do that. But I'm just about to fall asleep so I'll bookmark this and give you some info in the morning.
Sounds good. Look forward to your reply tomorrow.
A good resource for sure. Trying to envision my build and goals for my rig. I'd rather buy once than switch a few times like some popular youtuber with ad money.