When I first joined this forum, meaning of you said that Tacoma world was terrible, but sometimes had a good information, so I still get on there from time to time. I will provide you with a screenshot from one of the jackasses that are on that site and has been responding to a post of mine. I’m sure you will get a kick out of this. Lol. This was in response to the exact same post I put on here regarding which part I should add next (if you haven’t seen it I simply listed the parts I’ve put on and asked what should I add next). I’ll list the parts below for reference. However, this guy said there’s no way I could see a power gain with the parts I’ve added lol.
-Injen Intake
-RIPP Coil Packs
-Oil Catch Can (Doesn’t help or hurt I don’t think)
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URD High Pro Radiator
-URD Power Extractor Pipes
-URD Spec-U Exhaust
(All 4 Cats deleted with the above pipes)
-URD Short Throw Shifter
-Nitro Gears (5.29)
-Pedal Commander
-Pending the KD Max tune next week
For gains, did you make any claims? HP numbers? State you could feel a difference in performance?
At face value depending on what you may have said I could see why he said what he said.
Without actual numbers and certain modifications, what you say could just be subjective.
Where his statement you shared could just be objective and he's just stating his opinion from his side. To me this also seems pretty reasonable. Then seeing it from his side. Just my thoughts on this with 20+ years of actively being around forums as a user/moderator/admin. No judgement or anything. Have to remember they are mostly opinions until proven with actual facts.
A lot of things could be mental. You like it. You got it. It might feel better/more, but it could just be mental. The only way to know for for is to get a baseline dyno then re-dyno after each individual mod. Weather and environment would have to be the same. Also take into account for the current state of the vehicle. Can take this as technical as anyone wants. Then each mod provides different results for each vehicle, type of vehicle. I'll admit, I fool myself all the time to justify why I did something.
Some of the modifications you have listed are negligible. That's just what I believe and it comes from experience.
My thoughts on parts without before/after dyno.
Intakes - I always got one. Just because I was just used to the noise. Just throatier. Does it actually improve performance? Not sure. I might have thought I felt it be more "responsive" or it pulled better top end because I spent the money on it and took the time to install it. But it's just a butt dyno. I used to have an all motor build and I know it made a difference in that vehicle. If you look at Injen's dyno for the intake, it shows the humidity level was higher when they dyno'ed the stock truck. 8% humidity. We can't accurately tell how much of a performance loss the vehicle would experience, but that is more water in the air which does lower hp numbers.
RIPP Coil Packs - These guys just invented a revolutionary coil pack that just gains 10-20whp. Like most people, I'd have to see it in person. What other variables were different between their dyno pulls? So it's 10whp minimum up to 20whp in every vehicle? Bold claim I guess. Why wasn't it done before?
Oil Catch Cans - If a little oil would harm the vehicle, the manufacturer would have built them in. Those million mile vehicles, I bet they don't even bother. It's an insignificant amount of oil that gets in, might be lubing something in there and helping, dries out, burns off over time. Just makes you feel like it does something. Down side, it could negatively affect pressure in some cases.
Radiators - I feel manufacturers optimized performance of radiators. Usually the purpose of need is if the vehicle is being reconfigured or it's required and actually improves cooling. Sure the new radiator might cool better, but does the vehicle need it? We don't know for sure.
I/H/E - Sound faster, yes. RACEKORR! With lower compression vehicles, I always worried larger diameter could lead to a loss in needed backpressure. Depending on what modifications, might be ok. Others, it might impact it negatively or shift the power band. This one would definitely need dynoed before and after one the same vehicle and same conditions. Restrictions aren't always a bad thing.
Short Throw Shifter - It's gonna feel like a performance gain. Shorter throws. Snappier with new solid bushings all around. Angle maths reductions. You'll definitely feel a difference. But I wouldn't consider it a gain.
Gears - You're gonna feel it.
PC - It's an illusion. They trick you and your truck. Lol. Some sarcasm here, but yeah it does reduce delays and increase responsiveness. I wouldn't list this as a gain either. Might feel better, but ultimately the vehicle is the same performance wise before and after.
So we know what a base factory Tacoma dyno should be. You just have to get tuned and get some numbers. Once you present the numbers, you might just prove him wrong. From your modifications, it seems your goals are more for making it more fun to drive performance wise. Where Tacomas usually aren't modded for that purpose. Sometimes they do, but it's not a common platform one would choose to go that route. Might just be his opinion that Tacomas are just trucks, when you do stuff to them it should add to the utility benefit of the vehicle.
Based on your mod list alone and taking function of those parts into consideration, to me that's a tuner vehicle. Making a practical everyday vehicle quick and fun without forced induction. Which would make you one that goes against the grain. When you do that, you just have to talk that shit. He's just going to try to shoot down your posts because it's not the norm. You'll just have to boost.
