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Hubermr

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Everyone,

I am looking at replacing my upper and lower control arms with Dirt King aftermarket ones. I am also looking at the Maxtrax aftermarket spindles. It adds i think 4 inches to the lift. If anyone has them what lift did you need to add on the back to level it out?
 
Hubermr said:
Everyone,

I am looking at replacing my upper and lower control arms with Dirt King aftermarket ones. I am also looking at the Maxtrax aftermarket spindles. It adds i think 4 inches to the lift. If anyone has them what lift did you need to add on the back to level it out?
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To be honest with you, I have never heard of anyone running them (maybe on extremely built trucks), but I would like to read more into it. Could you please link the site that has the kit you are looking at?

They actually provide 4” of lift? That seems pretty awesome. And I’d imagine they are beefier than stock.
 
Hubermr said:
for sure!!

https://maxtracsuspension.com/series-38-maxtrac-suspension-spindles.html#!submodel=TRD OFF-ROAD, V6, 3.5L, GAS||model=TACOMA||year=2018||make=TOYOTA
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They seem like a good way to get a very solid 4” of lift for your 2wd truck (is yours 2wd?). I say solid because unlike coilovers, the spindles wont compress with weight, therefore giving you a constant 4”. I would imagine you would need a 6” leaf spring kit in the rear to level the truck out and avoid the Cali-lean look.
 
Hubermr said:
@Tyler

These are the control arms I am looking at.

Upper Control Arms
https://dirtkingfabrication.com/collections/tacoma/products/heim-upper-control-arms-dk-811903

Lower Control Arms
https://dirtkingfabrication.com/collections/tacoma/products/performance-lower-control-arms
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They’re known to be great control arms. However, because of the 4-5” lift you might have from your spindles and coils, I think you should email them about this. They say their control arms are rated to 3” lift. You should find out what they think about their ball joints sitting at a constant angle that is a little more than what they are recommending.
 
Tyler said:
They seem like a good way to get a very solid 4” of lift for your 2wd truck (is yours 2wd?). I say solid because unlike coilovers, the spindles wont compress with weight, therefore giving you a constant 4”. I would imagine you would need a 6” leaf spring kit in the rear to level the truck out and avoid the Cali-lean look.
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I dont know why they put for 2WD becuase its just replacing the front. But mine is a 4x4 and these would still work. When i was looking into the rear i was told to level you do 2 inches less than the front. So i would need 2 inches in the rear?
 
Hubermr said:
I dont know why they put for 2WD becuase its just replacing the front. But mine is a 4x4 and these would still work. When i was looking into the rear i was told to level you do 2 inches less than the front. So i would need 2 inches in the rear?
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Not sure why they have it listed as 2wd either.

I really don’t think 2” would be enough for this. Most trucks are lifted 2-3” in the front and 2-4” in the rear and it looks level, especially with any gear over the bed.

I checked out some photos of this kit and you can usually see a lean.

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Of course, it depends on what they used in the rear.
 
This one says it has 2” in the rear, which is contrary to what I thought. (I’m to an expert on this — just shooting ideas.)

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Tyler said:
This one looks level, but that’s more than 2” added to the rear.

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Hmmm.... I know I am going to add a suspension airbag assist in the rear to compensate for the gear added but I’ll have to research more then. My truck is currently 3 inches in the front and one in the rear with a basic lift level kit. So I’m not sure.
 
Tyler said:
This one says it has 2” in the rear, which is contrary to what I thought. (I’m to an expert on this — just shooting ideas.)

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I did reach out to both companies about how to go about doing this. I want to see if it can be done because I’m not exactly looking for a long travel. Just something that can take more abuse than OEM
 
Hubermr said:
Hmmm.... I know I am going to add a suspension airbag assist in the rear to compensate for the gear added but I’ll have to research more then. My truck is currently 3 inches in the front and one in the rear with a basic lift level kit. So I’m not sure.
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Adding the airbags will surely compensate for any lean you might have by using 2” in the rear. So if you’re going that route, you should be good.
 
Hubermr said:
Yo so get this. I reach out to dirt king and they said those are for 2WD trucks only. So I am back to the drawing board on what I need to do to strengthen my suspension in the front.
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That was what I thought.

What is your intent with strengthening? I’ll be able to make other suggestions based off what your goals are.
 
Tyler said:
That was what I thought.

What is your intent with strengthening? I’ll be able to make other suggestions based off what your goals are.
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well I’m looking for non long travel suspension replacement parts. Like the Heim upper control arms. With the forums I’ve read up on the factory suspension just can’t handle the abuse of over landing so I’m looking to go aftermarket with something stronger that can take some abuse.
 
Hubermr said:
well I’m looking for non long travel suspension replacement parts. Like the Heim upper control arms. With the forums I’ve read up on the factory suspension just can’t handle the abuse of over landing so I’m looking to go aftermarket with something stronger that can take some abuse.
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SPC upper control arms are a solid and less expensive option. They are highly adjustable for alignments and such. I have abused mine for 2 years and they are holding up great, ball joints still don’t need replacing.

@TOTAL CHAOS has a popular UCA option. I believe they make ones that are not long travel.

Icon also has a few nice options in varying prices that are commonly used and abused.

A lot of people don’t replace the lowers because they are known to hold up quite well even with a lift and desert mobbing. But if you are going to, @TOTAL CHAOS has those too.

And then, of course, there’s Dirt King.
 
Had a long write up and didnt see tylers post. So ill just agree with him
-SPC uppers
-Extended travel coilovers
-Beef up the rear with a new pack and aal if needed
-Throw skid plates on the stock lowers
-Send it
 
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Hubermr said:
@Tyler would you say if I was to do the @TOTAL CHAOS UCAs and I wanted to do the lowers as well should I do their uniball lower? Since the upper has a uniball
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It would be personal choice if you were to go with the uniball lowers. We build and sell more of the uniball lowers than we do the standard version but it's up to the user and what they are looking for out of the arm.

Our 86555-E Lowers (available in dual and single shock options) would be a great choice.
https://www.chaosfab.com/accessorie...es-Stock-Length-Lower-Control-Arms-86555-E-16
 
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