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Tyler said:
So what all is changing? I can't watch the video right now.
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Same truck and options, no changes. (Just colors)
He outlines that the 2020-2023 have all the 2016-2019 bugs fixed and weak parts revised.
As expected by Toyota, stay with the original idea and get it right (fix the issues).
HOWEVER, this is scheduled to be the last model year, 2024 is the 4 Turbo and the electric version.
No more V6 and no more manual 6 ,.. which really sucks.

As with any new model in 2024 expect bugs and issues for 2-3 years from the new stuff.
(Just like the rest of the newest models from any manufacture)
Turbos that seize and the batteries concerns.
 
bonifacio said:
Says the gear hunting isn't the transmission. Just how it drives...
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That comment alone tells me this dude doesn't know shit about the Tacoma. Just another guy online speculating about changes he knows absolutely nothing about.
 
Mr. Nobody said:
That comment alone tells me this dude doesn't know shit about the Tacoma. Just another guy online speculating about changes he knows absolutely nothing about.
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Paraphrased. Just a long ass video of nothing really.

3.5l engine is the new kid on the block. Won't find a lot of cars with such an old school engine.

Significant metal shield. Old school because it has a big heavy shield. "thing"

Under the truck, he just goes through and points out all the metal underneath it and keeps repeating old school.

Points out how interesting the fuel tank has a plastic cover.

Shows how one headlight says TRD and the other says PRO.

Loves the fake hood scoop and people boast about it.

20 minutes in I had to stop. Legit walk around of a vehicle. Showing a time traveler what a truck is... Just keeps repeating how interesting the next transition is.

Fast forwarded out of curiosity. He continues to say he calls it the "Tacoma Special", that it's very sensitive to modifications especially the driveline angle.

He just regurgitated common issues and crap from AI Google click bait.
 
He worked for Toyota as a Mechanic for over 20 years,
"Old School" is in reference to 2016 new kid "engine design"
..... when the 2nd gen engine was reworked from the 1st GR version (old school engine)

Note: direct injection is not new tech it is old school,.... the last improvement/ tech upgrade on the 2GR engine in 2016 as well.

and YES he did dish the lifting of the vehicle as it puts a bad angle on the drive system and also causes vibrations.
I hear alot of confirmations and stories about re-working the lift types to get rid of these issue.

Soooo maybe not such a bad informative video,.... unless you lifted your truck and refuse to admit the issues and increased wear.
Listening to 70% (or partial) of any conversation is not listening......... Just stating the facts.
 
Oh
I forgot, the auto transmission HAS gone thru different programming from Toyota from 2016-2017-2019 and present.
A 2021 and up are not programmed the same as earlier years,. "that was his reference to the subject"
Maybe not perfect as he said,.... BUT its not the same.
This does give aftermarket tuners a "moving target" ........ gotta love technology LOL,....
wanna fix it,........... Get a manual!
 
Tomahawk Dog said:
He worked for Toyota as a Mechanic for over 20 years,
"Old School" is in reference to 2016 new kid "engine design"
..... when the 2nd gen engine was reworked from the 1st GR version (old school engine)

Note: direct injection is not new tech it is old school,.... the last improvement/ tech upgrade on the 2GR engine in 2016 as well.

and YES he did dish the lifting of the vehicle as it puts a bad angle on the drive system and also causes vibrations.
I hear alot of confirmations and stories about re-working the lift types to get rid of these issue.

Soooo maybe not such a bad informative video,.... unless you lifted your truck and refuse to admit the issues and increased wear.
Listening to 70% (or partial) of any conversation is not listening......... Just stating the facts.
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I'm a very literally person. Overly objective. Like on the spectrum like. I can see both sides. Yes, there are issues.

In my opinion, it's quality control. Shortcuts. Manufacturers cheaping out and skipping steps. Not just Toyota. Colorados even have a Lemon class action/lawsuit. I don't think Tacomas have gone that far with it. It's a very blanketed vague statement but he makes it sound as if it's Tacomas specifically.

Fact: Vibrations on the Tacoma were caused by improperly torqued brakes and incorrect leaf settings. Brake adjustments corrected that. Then there was also TSB for the leaf springs. Corrected by an angled shim or just shims.
This could have happened to any truck and is a general issue. Not just specifically to Tacomas. Just a simple search and you can find Colorados have it just as bad. F150's also show the same symptoms.

Mine had it and it was the brakes being overtorqued. Which was also a TSB. From my service records:

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I have a 2021 F-150 STX 4x4 with the 2.7 and 10 speed transmission. I've been having an issue with a shudder or jerking feeling when I'm on the interstate at higher speeds when accelerating between 1500-3000 rpm. It does this a little bit in all gears but it’s a lot more noticeable at higher speeds where the gears don’t have as much torque.
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I have a 2017 Colorado, ZR2.
Driving it this morning I noticed that once I get up to speed say 55 and level out every now and then I can feel a slight vibration like I'm driving over rumble strips.
Any one encounter this?
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First 15 results show identical issues.

Google Search

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I gave up on lifting my vehicles when I hit 50.
It had its day I guess,
I like them they look great and if done right work well.
Every time I get the interest again for the Tacoma,
I just look at my Jeep that has "stuff" then remind myself WHY I drive the Tacoma more.
 
Tomahawk Dog said:
I gave up on lifting my vehicles when I hit 50.
It had its day I guess,
I like them they look great and if done right work well.
Every time I get the interest again for the Tacoma,
I just look at my Jeep that has "stuff" then remind myself WHY I drive the Tacoma more.
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Understandable.
Just about the video, that's a click bait title. They title things to spark interest in getting views to generate revenue on the YouTube channel.
Wasn't arguing that the information wasn't true. Presentation was just bad. Made it sound like Tacoma specific issues, but the tidbits were general and apply to any vehicle. It's just what they do. Content creation. Can't always believe everything in it's entirety.
Since you have the Jeep for fun, as long as you have your fun vehicle that's what matters right? How high is it lifted?

I'd say even at 50, a small lift wouldn't be a horrible idea. Just replacing to 5100's isn't a bad idea since you can maintain stock height and just get the improved ride quality. :)

The other thing about the leaf springs. When torqueing them, they should be torqued while suspended so the leafs are in a relaxed state.
Also think about how many end up getting torqued while on the ground. A lot of people just don't properly wrap things up and blame the vehicle. Another thing to take into consideration. You'd be surprised how many times it comes up from people improperly putting things back together. Even the manufacturer or dealership just trying to rush through things.
 
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