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2020 clutch

Andrew d Jacobson

2️⃣ Bronze
Clutch is going out on my 20 OR. Low miles i run 285's and a topper, and pull a camper. What it is the best option for replacing stock or is it worth getting something like clutchmaster HD. Still a daily driver not out rock crawling.
 
Tacoma's have very well engineered stock clutches for 90% of users but off roaders with weight and off roaders that ride the clutch for terrain reasons do not follow the 90% rule if they do this more than 10% of the clutch's life (average person off roads 10% OR LESS)

Please note going thru the 4WD system for 15 min is NOT off roading,...................... just say'in

The Tacoma also has a "clutch pressure accumulator" it's built into the hydraulic system that engages and disengages the clutch.
Some people remove / modify it to get that "real clutch engagement feel".

It was installed by the factory to make clutch engagement a tad slower and smoother for the drop footed non experienced clutch user.
If you know how it operates and are good using clutches you can figure it out pretty quick and know when to release the pedal earlier.

But the accumulator makes "feathering - riding - slow release" of the clutch a more wearable factor to the clutch pads.
I will say it can increase friction time between 30-60% as that is what the accumulator is designed to do DELAY ENGAGEMENT for a smoother shift. Remember the drop pedal non experienced user....... we are talking tenths of seconds in delay for drop footers BUT its delay is multiplied when its being feathered - riding - or released slowly on purpose for obstacles or even weight added to the climb.

Do aftermarket clutches get rid of the accumulator or even mention it?????? I DO NOT KNOW.
Will keeping the accumulator installed affect the performance of this fancy new clutch? Is the fancy clutch designed for it???? I DO NOT KNOW.
These are great questions to ask an aftermarket clutch manufacture / installed, Dont be the test subject here.

Please note these aftermarket "grippy" clutches will ride quite differently on the street,..... YOU WOULD HOPE SO.
They also will not be a guarantee of extended life,... they are designed for a purpose and may give you many more miles depending on the user operator.

Do your homework on manufacture of these Toyota aftermarket clutches but remember 100% off roaders and 50% off roaders and weekend warriors will all have different experiences!!! Their opinion's will vary greatly AS THEY SHOULD.
If you guys are going thru a clutch in less than 75K then you must fit into the feather - ride - slow-release bunch of the operating crowd.
The accumulator and stock pressure of the OEM is just not fitting the operator's driving style it is most likely doubling or even tripling the friction time when the clutch is being operated. This will lead to the clutch's life being shortened by over the same percentage.

It is physics and simple mechanics,... the same exact theory applies to your brake pads feathering - riding - slow release will result in more pad wear,....... clutches are the same, they use friction pads just like disc brakes do but add in springs and pressure plates and you get the picture.

ADVISE - please replace ALL of the clutch components. Pilot Bearing - Throw-out Bearing - Clutch (obviously) and yes, the Pressure Plate.
The pressure plate CAN BE resurfaced.
But do not waste your time,..... remember the brake theory, as you would replace the disc and pads,..... resurfacing will warp and speed wear.

Aftermarket clutches have "stages" of clutches ........ like flywheel weights and they can explain the grip and speed of the plates spring rates ect.
CenterForce is a aftermarket company,.... one of their "stage" clutches explained
First their AD then a buyer gets an install
Source: https://youtu.be/3ZFjIsEPzC4


Source: https://youtu.be/YwBFcvMe4OE?t=449
 
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Do aftermarket clutches get rid of the accumulator or even mention it?????? I DO NOT KNOW.
Will keeping the accumulator installed affect the performance of this fancy new clutch? Is the fancy clutch designed for it???? I DO NOT KNOW.
Doesn’t really matter, you could keep or get rid of the accumulator on any clutch you choose to run. If you keep it then it will just apply the same dampened clutch release to the aftermarket clutch.

Honestly, in theory, the accumulator should help the clutch more than hurt it. It essentially makes it to where you can’t dump the clutch very drastically, which would be easier on the clutch as far as shock loading stuff goes. Only thing is, many people don’t like the dampened feel.
 
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I’d likely stick to stock, I consider it to be one of the most consistent and reliable options. Centerforce seems good, but sometimes people have bad luck with them. I’d mostly trust them though. I personally wouldn’t trust Clutch Masters, URD, or any of the other brands at all really. I jut don’t think any of them have earned any real reputation for putting out a truly good product.

For 285s and pulling a camper, you are probably stressing it out more than it likes. Of course, some of them are unlucky and just start falling apart early no matter what, and some people also just destroy them because they aren’t very skilled at driving. Anywho, depending on how you drive, a regear to 4.88 or 5.29 might help you out for making towing easier on the truck as well as turning the larger heavier tires.
 
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Doesn’t really matter, you could keep or get rid of the accumulator on any clutch you choose to run. If you keep it then it will just apply the same dampened clutch release to the aftermarket clutch.

Honestly, in theory, the accumulator should help the clutch more than hurt it. It essentially makes it to where you can’t dump the clutch very drastically, which would be easier on the clutch as far as shock loading stuff goes. Only thing is, many people don’t like the dampened feel.
I know the accumulator will operate the same no matter what clutch it is attached to.
The I dont know is,............. manufactures recommendations as it can / may void the warranty if you do not remove it,,,, again,,,,, I dont know.

Lets step back,... if you put big tires on a jeeps stock axles,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, you may have problems
the stock part will not hold up to the added stress,.................. same with a Tacoma or any vehicle.
WILL IT WORK ,..... SURE until it breaks,
Drive your stock Tacoma thru brush and ground obstacles,.... you will be missing some stock plastic bumpers and parts
put a bunch of really cool stuff on your truck and now it is most likely overweight for off roading,..... get some suspension.

No matter what STOCK vehicle you buy it will not be ready for extreme weekends ,....... well it might make one weekend.
Face it ,....... tough stuff needs...... tuff stuff.
 
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